Catherine Liu, professor of film and media studies at UC Irvine, visits the podcast to discuss Phillip Guston, the PMC and cultural institutions. She is the author of Virtue Hoarders (2021).
https://twitter.com/bureaucatliu
https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/virtue-hoarders
Catherine Liu on the Professional Managerial Class
Howard Singerman, Art Subjects: Making Artists in the American University (1999). He teaches at Hunter
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